guest: earl brian was a guy -- it is like all of our characters. earl brian was a neurosurgeon trained as a doctor who about two years after she finished medical school and over to vietnam for a few years, came back slightly decorated, and was a member of governor reagan's california administration and the program there and became in charge of that. later on, he was a guy who -- i think he ran for office and was not successful and went into business. he eventually actually owned a tv company called the financial news network, which later became cnbc, which and clank -- ann clenk worked at, and t owned upi , and other companies. he also owns a company that was competing with inslaw, which bill hamilton alleged that the president of that company went over brian's head and said they would find a way to steal the software, procure the software from bill hamilton, and then later on -- i guess he was a friend of reagan. the kitchen cabinet of ronald reagan when he was president. he also shows up on a police report saying that he was out at the coachella